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Monday, December 6, 2010

Happy Chanaukah



May the Lights of Israel shine Brightly FOREVER!


song sung by Marty Goetz, one of my favorite composers of
Messianic music.  Many of Marty's songs can be found on Youtube.

6 comments:

Hevel said...

Ouch, ouch, ouch. While the song is beautiful, I find the photos lifted from Chabad sites (including the CrownHeights.info one) tsteless. While John 10:22-23 brings Yeshuah and Chanukah together in the same sentence, I think Messiahnic Jews don't recognize how unwelcome they are at Chabad (or pretty much any real Jewish) functions.

Mike and Christie said...

Hmmmm. My guess is they probably do realize that they are unwelcome, but it does not change who they are or their history, so they celebrate together/ yet apart.

Marty Goetz definitely knows his rejection, because when he trusted Christ as savior, his family disowned him.

Hevel said...

The thing is, I still think that using Chabad images--or really, mainstream Jewish images was very inapropriate by the person who created the video. It's not Marty Goetz's fault, he wrote a beautiful piece of music that reflect his beliefs, yet someone, who put the images to the video are implying that the music represent the doctrines of the original image owners, and Chabad Lubavitch is very prominently featured. I believe that is a gross misrepresentation of their Jewish faith.

I have a sister who became a Messiahnic Jew. She likes to claim the family disowned her, but in all reality, she is always welcome... her proselyting is not. If she can't come without trying to convert the rest of the family, well, she is still welcome, but people will likely not talk to her much beyond everyday pleasantries. It sucks to be her, but it also sucks when she starts talking the impressionable youngsters into her religion. I assume you wouldn't be too happy if I tried to convert your girls to Judaism. (Which I won't.)

The Jewish roots thing... when someone becomes a Christian they deny the very essence of Judaism with moving away from monotheism to the Trinity and the Law. Also, they became Christians they stopped being Jewish in religion and for a Jew it is more or less forbidden to worship with other religions. We can be present, but not join in or let others join in our worship. Kinda hard to explain. But this post is not the place I want to argue religion.

The song, as I said, is beautiful and reflects a deep faith, which always makes things even more valuabele.

Mike and Christie said...

I have been trying HARD to find a different version. I think this one is better, AND it shows the words.
Everything else I was looking for was simply silly stuff, and I didn't want silly, although it is fun.
I'm sorry Hevel, in trying to wish you a Happy Chanaukah, I caused you grief.

I will say that monotheism and trinitarianism is the same. The trinity is not 3 Gods but one God with 3 distinct persons within the Godhead. Christianity views the law as a tutor to show that we cannot follow the law perfectly and need a savior. Christianity is about forgiveness because we are all transgressors of the law. Christ, being the final sacrifice for sin and one trusting in HIS sacrifice to pay the penalty for our sin.

But you are right, this probably isn't the place to talk converse on this one. We could go on forever.

Hevel said...

Of course we would. :)

And really, you didn't cause me grief. It was just... a shick. I remember listening to this song on probably vimeo that simply had a burning chanukiyah in the background. I'm trying to find that one for you. :)

Hevel said...

Yes, yes, yes. :)

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